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Take it away I would like to immediately hand off our president Aleix is it working?

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Yes, it looks green so yeah, thanks everyone for joining us today we will be

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talking about what we've been up to,

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we being the KTV board I hope everybody knows what the KTV is if you don't,

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We will also have a buff. We will also have a buff. We're going to be amazing.

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For starters, let's introduce ourselves. I'm going to start because I have the microphone.

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My name is Aleix. I'm from Barcelona, living in Berlin. And I've been on the

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KDP board for maybe eight years now.

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And I'm the president right now.

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Hello, I'm Lydia. I'm the vice president, live in Berlin, on the board for 10 or something years.

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Hello, I'm Eike. I'm the treasurer on the board. I have been for the past seven

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years, so I make sure we don't go broke, which we haven't yet, which is great.

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I'm apparently Dr. Adrien de Groot. And I've been on the board also for six

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years now and six years before then.

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I'm Nick Graham. I boast none of those credentials. So I make up for it with

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pluckiness and enthusiasm in my two years on the board.

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So, well, just to mention, we have three-year mandates. dates and it happens

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that this year there's no ending so it seems like there's not gonna be an election this AGM.

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The AGM this year we're gonna have it detached from Academy like unlike we normally do.

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This is a first time thing but not really first time because last year happened what happened.

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But be mindful it's gonna be in a few weeks online.

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First of all our new members we had seven new members much like,

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last year and two years ago thank you very much for joining us Bart,

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James, Emir Joshua, Julius Andre and Kisaragi and two pending two pending.

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Adding to that, Academy tends to be the day when a lot of people join the KDEV

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or maybe are suggested to become members. So use that opportunity if you can.

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We don't just have members in KDEV. We also have supporting members,

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We have a very sharp increase in supporting members in the last year.

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You can see that going from 53 paying members to 719 is a big jump.

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We refreshed our donation infrastructure. We have new ways to donate that have

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gotten great feedback and I think are easier to use.

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And we've also advertised them a lot to great effect. So that's fantastic.

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The same is true for many other ways to donate to KDE via GitHub and via other forums.

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We see an uptick there as well. So we are very happy with that.

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Oh, still me. We are very happy that all our fantastic patrons are still with us.

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These are our corporate supporting members, so organizations rather than individuals.

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These are all a fantastic, loyal bunch.

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Many of them have been with us for many years. Many of them also sponsor Academy.

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We don't have any new ones to report this year. So if you are in touch with

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any company that benefits from KDE or sees a value in what we do,

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maybe talk to them about it.

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And talking is what we do with the KDE EV advisory board. This includes our corporate sponsors.

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the room ambition open uk i can't say anything nice about ambition sorry um

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open uk and the osi the cute group our,

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grand parents i guess uh slimbook suza and tuxedo computers this forms our advisory

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board we have regular quarterly calls with them to talk about what's on their

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Other partners and affiliations that we have as KDEV, community partners, Lix, the Qt project.

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Verein Randa meetings, everyone remembers the Randa get togethers fondly.

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Sure. KDE Spain organizes, among other things, Academy España.

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We're friends with GNOME over the Linux Application Summit, the Chaos Working Group.

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including the Document Foundation, Oasis, OAN, and the Open Source Initiative.

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software sustainability, and how we can support all that.

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of promotional activities in a million and one ways.

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vendors and Jacob is going to be joining her very soon with a,

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well, craft things also work, which is the tool we use for implementing things on these platforms.

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Uh, he's been helping us, um, lead on the Qt 6 port when we started, which was, um,

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happens in the best of, uh, conditions, and then we'll start looking into other, um, ventures.

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documentation a great deal.

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channels and just poke him there if you need something documentation specific.

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It's great to have everyone here. A big thank you, especially to the Academy

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team, to Promo, to the organizers for getting the word out and making sure that

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people have a good time here.

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If you're in the audience, you will also be thinking about next year,

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and we'll soon be looking for a location for next year's Academy.

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I'm going to talk a bit about non-academy things, the sprints.

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which gets together in Toulouse every year.

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I think the past year is the first one where we can now say we can retire the term post pandemic.

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physical form, some in their second year.

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effort that is also supported by them.

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is that our India satellite event, conf.kde.in, is back for the first time in many years.

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We're very happy that this happened again.

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back here at Academy, as Ade also said, and also that Academy Spain happened as well.

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up this year. That is going to be another highlight in the calendar.

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that I attended along with Lydia and others.

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just enjoy using your software. So that was really great.

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Fundraising. So I mentioned we had a significant uptick across many of our donation channels.

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because we finally retired CiviCRM.

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Somebody could write a book about it. We've burned every contractor that exists in that market.

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UX turns out to make a difference.

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which of course was a big attention grabber and a good reason to run also fundraising campaigns.

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People are keeping their recurring plan going and they They keep donating, which is great.

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we want to do more of in the past.

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use of this infrastructure and start engaging with that audience.

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And then this in the future was also then a funding source that we expect to grow.

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about all the activities of the ev then you can find that on the ev website,

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very well very worth reading,

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putting uh quite some effort

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into figuring out okay how can we help individual projects more

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still that is a part of this um and we have uh gotten quite some money for this

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with KDE Live because that's what this money was fundraised for, right?

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we're open to adding more programs to this.

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Come talk to us and we can see if that's a fit at this point.

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Another major KDE topic is always the KDE goals.

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We just concluded a round of goals and voted on another one.

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Some of you may have been in the session just before lunch.

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A couple of us who were goals champions talked about our goals,

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wrapping everything up, and mentioned some of the things that were challenging for us.

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Some things worked a little bit better than others. And so that feedback has

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been taken into account for the latest round of goals.

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And as such, we're making a couple of changes to try to adapt to those pieces of feedback.

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We're going to try for each goal to be run by a team instead of individual champions.

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Hopefully this will reduce the amount of work on any one individual person and

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make it possible for people to have breaks and avoid burnout.

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We're going to be doing more aggressive outreach for the community,

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helping to get the word out for these goals, and we're also going to be,

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through our new goals coordinator,

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seeking external sources of funding in the form of relevant grants for the goals

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in the hope that these new monies will be able to be put towards actual work

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and development relevant to the goals.

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Uh, the goals were just one of the really cool things that happened. There were many others.

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Uh, some of us have put our highlights on this page here. Some of the things

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we're particularly proud of.

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Uh, one of the ones that personally I'm the most happy about is one of the things

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that I could just mention, which is we did an incredible fundraiser that was

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super duper crazy successful.

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We went from, I believe, 51 supporting members to like 750.

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It's a factor of like 13 is huge, huge, huge improvement.

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So it shows that there's a lot of low-hanging fruit there in terms of fundraising,

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and people are very willing to give to our organization.

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A lot of that came from Plasma 6, which there was a lot of release activity around.

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We released Plasma 6. It was a very successful major release.

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After nearly 10 years of Plasma 5, we moved to 6 in a largely drama-free way.

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We're about to be releasing Plasma 6.2 in a little over a month.

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And so far, the reaction to this has has been super duper positive.

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As I discussed when you voted on the new goals, three have been chosen.

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They're really great. I'm very happy about those new goals. I hope all of you

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are excited about them as well, because we're going to be hearing a lot about them.

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And finally, another highlight is that we got another KDE Eco Grant.

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This now marks the second one we've got, which shows that our organization is

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really building trust in that space.

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And as Cornelius mentioned in the previous session, we're now becoming known

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as an organization that's active and trustworthy in the eco and sustainability spaces.

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Moving on, here are some of the things that we talked about last year that we

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said that we were going to do.

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We want to do better support the KDE Goals program.

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As I mentioned just a moment ago, we have revamped the program.

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We've decided to change around a few things, hopefully to offer more support to Goals champions.

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We have contracted with Fareed to take over the organization of the process,

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and he's doing great work to help support the new champions.

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So we have very high hopes for the Katie Eagles process moving forward.

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Then after that, we've got our new financial situation, which is something that

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was a little bit aspirational last year.

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We were hoping that DonorBox and this fundraising campaign would bear fruit,

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and it certainly has borne fruit.

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Our supporting member donations have

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increased from 2022 to 2023 in total

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by over 60,000 euros this is fantastic we're going

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to be putting this to good use to do more activities that are highly relevant

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to the community and finally as I could just mention we're in firmly post-pandemic

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territory we wanted to organize more events we are here for academy of course

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LAS is next month and I hope to see some of you there.

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I'm actually going to attend this year.

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Hiding from that one. So I want to see a bunch more of you as well.

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And then there are all of those other events that we mentioned,

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conferences and trade shows. So KDE is really showing up in a lot of places.

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Finally, over here, we have the Make a Living program, which is where we put

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all of this fundraised money to good use by employing people,

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largely existing members of the KDE community, but some outsiders who are brought

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in and then made insiders.

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And we definitely wanted to put

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that money towards that use so that we're reinvesting in our community.

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And then finally, the fifth thing was that we wanted to get our products closer

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to users. This is a work in progress.

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We discussed already making it more possible to acquire our apps in various

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app stores, which is where people tend to want to find them these days.

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There are also partnerships with hardware vendors and distro partnerships.

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And in general, We've been thinking a lot about the topic of how to make it

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more possible for KDE to have direct relationships with our users.

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It's been a very big topic in the recent past, and we expect that to be true going forward as well.

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Now for the next year, I wouldn't expect something like super deviating from what we did this year.

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But obviously it's an iteration, like we still need to support our new goals.

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They were announced today. They're amazing, but we need to work together,

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which means we need to work together as a community member, but also as an EV.

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Actually, something that was a reason for the goals to be, to exist in the first

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place was like, how does the EV and the EV board specifically,

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like know how to like spend money within the community and the goals is a clear way.

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Like we have a mandate there that it's something that we care from as a community

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and it should be actionable.

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The financial situation remains a topic.

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You will have seen that on the yearly report, we had some fancy red numbers.

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On the other hand, we have the increase in donations.

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This is something that we need to understand and navigate.

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We will go a little bit about that later today. And then also coming together, it remains important.

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Academy LAS should also happen next year.

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By the way, like we said, If you want to organize Academy or LIS,

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say so, and we'll help you.

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Also, Sprint, they have diminished considerably since pandemic correlation or

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causation. It has been clearly a thing.

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Some people who are newer in the community were telling me yesterday,

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we don't really understand why they're not happening. And I would have liked to go more of that.

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So if you think that this is a problem you've identified, reach out to us.

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Like we do have funds and actually if we think that you care we will also like push it more right.

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Um on make a living it continues to be a thing but uh making make a living thing

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also was considered like um,

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also a test and a start to like

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hire people to work on on the product and

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on on the community which is something that we hadn't done before and

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at the moment we're at the point that like this initial push for it uh is somewhat

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over we should start thinking we think which things work which things didn't

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and actually how do we establish that right like uh when how do we decide that

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to take on a new project, how do we decide to stop a project?

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These are things that need to be established so that also you can say,

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I would like to work on this or I would like to see this worked on.

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How do we do that properly?

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And on the same lines as Nate was discussing earlier, we brought down that getting

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closer to our users into these two big topics on the when it comes to hardware.

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I think that we need to like have this direct communication with the community

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to see how that story needs to look like at the moment as KDV and KDV board.

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I mean, we're obviously like very related to the community and we know the answers,

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right? But I think that we need to polish a lot more.

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How do we, KD, want to be present in this kind of deployment?

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And probably right now is a very good moment to have this kind of consideration,

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both because, like, well, our ecosystem at the technical level is at a moving moment.

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And but also because, like, at the moment, we have all of the contacts and we

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need to make sure that we are also delivering to them something that we're proud of.

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And when it comes to the app stores, we have the one on Windows and Android.

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I think that we should do more. We should see that everything is in place to make it happen.

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But we do think that it would be interesting if this could become one of the

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sources of income and of engagement of people from outside of our direct community.

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Like we're very close to the Linux community itself.

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There's a lot more world than that. And I think that, or we think that if we

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can be part of it, it would be very interesting.

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And furthermore, when it comes to Linux itself, we have been working with Flathub

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to see if payments can be a thing there and also be part of this story.

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It hasn't happened yet, but we're hoping that it will be a thing soon.

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So these are the key topics that we are suggesting for next year.

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We'll do our best to make sure that they happen. happen, reach out to us about

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any topics that you might want to talk to us about.

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We're all very nice people, or at least most of us, and find us on the hallways, on the chat rooms.

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We will have a buff, like we said earlier on Tuesday.

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So come over and we talk about any EV stuff.

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And maybe now we have some time for questions. I don't know. Do we have time?

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10 minutes.

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Yeah let's do questions does anyone want to say something.

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Please raise your question in the form of a question,

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don't tell me what to do so no like we had now some successful grant processes

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and I recall that in years past it wasn't the case.

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Did we collect learnings from that for the future?

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I think that the main learning I've had from the grant processes that grants themselves

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are a lot of work and we need

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to be very convinced for them to pay off uh but

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they do and when we are convinced and

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when it works uh like we're happy but

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when we also try to do them how fast then everybody

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gets frustrated and it's a waste of time so like

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saying as blanket we should be doing

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more grants is something that we should be aware very off

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but it's obviously a good opportunity for for ktv

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and for katie for evs in general i imagine to

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to do these kind of things because that can be a good way to fund what needs

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to happen and i think um one lesson that i learned about the grants process

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which in hindsight is maybe obvious is that um.

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Grants are not a way to earn money that you put into your coffers, right?

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Ideally, they break even. You get money for a certain purpose and you follow

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through on that purpose.

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That means that for a grant pitch to be successful and for the project to run

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successfully, as a community, we need to be really convinced we want to do that.

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The support has to be there.

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The people executing on the work, they have to be there. or we have to be able to contract them.

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So KDE Eco, I think, is a fantastic success story that's really a feather in

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our crown, right? It's something that otherwise we wouldn't have done.

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But it's also something that we've invested into. So if you just look at the

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financial numbers, we've put in a little bit more money than we've gotten out,

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especially because we had the gap between the two grants, right?

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And as long as we're totally convinced that it's worth doing and fits to our

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mission, then that makes perfect sense.

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So I think the grant proposals, they fail when we strain to apply for a grant,

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but there's no true community activity or interest sort of backing that, then it's bound to fail.

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But if there is enthusiasm and opportunity and they come together plus enough

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time, then it can work out really well.

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Yeah. And I would add to it, honestly, it's not just enthusiasm, right?

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For the first grant, Cornelius put in a ton of time. For the second grant,

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Joseph did the same thing.

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Like without their work, we would not have these grants because it requires

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so much time and effort that the board cannot do this.

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And um in the in

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both of these grants um we also specifically added um personnel resources to

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handle the administrative part of that uh still some of it ends up on pinterest

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desks and so on so that is a lot of work and enthusiasm isn't enough to make that,

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magically happen right like it takes like work and i'm very grateful to both

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corneas and and Joseph, that they have put in that network.

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More questions.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You mentioned there's one app on the App Store that is paid,

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that is available for payment,

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which one it is, and could we make more available? Do you have any candidates?

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So I recently asked Lej the very same question, and now I can relate his answer.

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So I understand, right, the pilot app on the store that you can pay for is NeoChat.

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Yeah. The rest of it, you're much more qualified to answer than I am.

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So I think the second part was how do we get more apps on there as an app developer?

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So we've been having the conversation about which are the others.

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And obviously, one of our problems is that we're all using Linux,

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like the population of Windows users in our community is fairly scarce.

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And even like Like when people use Linux at work and stuff, when they do kiddie

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things, they want to do Linux things.

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But we do have some applications with good adoption. Ocular comes to mind.

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Like it has several thousand users.

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Like we can have this discussion about like, do we put it, do we put it now?

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Do we want to like do any extra assessment of whether it's a good idea?

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Like some of the people of the community has also mentioned,

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like, why don't you just put them all at, like, five euros and see what happens?

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Something we could do. Like, in practice, I think that if KDE,

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as a free software organization, puts effort on Windows, needs to be paid for in the end.

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And also, like, if you use Windows and really don't want to pay an EV for the

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software you're getting, you can always get installables elsewhere.

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But it's still a good idea that we do the effort.

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But I would really prefer if it's the developers, the maintainers of each project

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that says, I'm going to take on this platform and make sure that it's working reasonably well.

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Because it's not really in our realm of expertise or even the kind of things

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we can do to figure out what happens in color paint on Android, right?

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Like, sure. So we cannot go all blanket on every platform.

443
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We could consider sponsoring more work, much like Ingo did, if this was something that is necessary.

444
00:36:15,736 --> 00:36:20,616
But this is something that we need to discuss and sit down and figure out properly how to do.

445
00:36:22,096 --> 00:36:26,496
If someone wants their app to be on the Windows Store, what do they do?

446
00:36:28,356 --> 00:36:31,156
Well they they they can reach out to

447
00:36:31,156 --> 00:36:34,096
us they can reach out to uh the different people

448
00:36:34,096 --> 00:36:37,356
who are maintaining the different platforms like for

449
00:36:37,356 --> 00:36:40,676
example on android android is another one that we could explore more that way

450
00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:46,316
like you don't even need to ask me right uh but reach out to me and we will

451
00:36:46,316 --> 00:36:54,596
figure it out or whatever else that's gonna be fine yeah two minutes you have one last

452
00:36:54,816 --> 00:36:57,396
question or two very quick ones.

453
00:37:02,194 --> 00:37:07,494
And you mentioned the new supporting members, which is fantastic that there are so many now.

454
00:37:08,034 --> 00:37:12,694
My question is, the supporting members are actually members of KDEV.

455
00:37:13,034 --> 00:37:19,094
We don't want to treat them as a recurring source of money, but actually as part of the community.

456
00:37:19,354 --> 00:37:21,914
Have you thought about how to engage them?

457
00:37:22,394 --> 00:37:26,114
I mean, we probably would have room for 700 people here, but it would have been

458
00:37:26,114 --> 00:37:27,994
nice to have at least some of them more here.

459
00:37:27,994 --> 00:37:35,874
Yeah, so they get quarterly newsletters, thanks to Annika preparing them,

460
00:37:35,974 --> 00:37:39,434
with news about what's happening around KDE.

461
00:37:40,774 --> 00:37:44,834
By the way, we need some help with that. If people are good with newsletter

462
00:37:44,834 --> 00:37:47,834
setups, please come talk to me.

463
00:37:47,834 --> 00:38:00,234
And they are invited to the AGM if people have more ideas how we can engage them even more please,

464
00:38:01,514 --> 00:38:03,574
talk to me and we can figure it out,

465
00:38:05,334 --> 00:38:08,714
and there was another question nine,

466
00:38:13,394 --> 00:38:14,274
here Here.

467
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:24,694
If there's not enough time for an answer, that's a pity.

468
00:38:24,874 --> 00:38:31,734
But you mentioned several projects that were funded where the KDE EV was active.

469
00:38:31,974 --> 00:38:38,354
But as I will show in the talk tomorrow, there are also several projects that

470
00:38:38,354 --> 00:38:43,174
were funded on KDE, which were developers themselves asking for funding.

471
00:38:43,174 --> 00:38:44,194
And I think that's something.

472
00:38:52,334 --> 00:38:56,554
So I think maybe the EV could also encourage people to, you know,

473
00:38:56,574 --> 00:38:59,274
just you can also apply yourself.

474
00:38:59,574 --> 00:39:03,134
And then the EV doesn't have the burden of employing people.

475
00:39:04,954 --> 00:39:08,554
Depends on the project, of course. What's the best choice? We totally recommend

476
00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:12,154
everybody to go talk to yours and do their KD project with them.

477
00:39:12,234 --> 00:39:12,914
It's going to be amazing.

478
00:39:13,174 --> 00:39:16,574
Obviously, we cannot report on things that hasn't been done by the KDP because

479
00:39:16,574 --> 00:39:18,494
this is the KDP board report.

480
00:39:19,294 --> 00:39:23,234
Thanks, everyone, for joining. Yeah, thanks for coming, guys.

481
00:39:26,874 --> 00:39:33,854
So coming up next in this room in about five minutes is a report of the working groups. I'm going to...

